My dad was a man’s man, he is my religious hero … when I was a little boy he told me that; son, your private philosophy will always affect your public performance. I grew up remembering that even when I did not fully understand what he meant at the time. Religion is philosophical in every sense and we all have one, even atheists do, they just want to create a perception that they are all about existentialism and nothing more. 

Like politics, religion rules and so around here we will encourage those of the different faiths to talk about their religions but we will espouse the only true God, the creator of heaven and earth. We believe that this could be a medium of gospel dissemination and if our philosophy is about the true God then all of us as the Apostle Paul wrote to the Romans in chapter 1 and verse 16, “…For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” – KJV.  I believe we shouldn’t be ashamed either.

In the only nation on the face of the world to have been declared as a “Christian Nation”, the Zambian smarts should not only walk the walk but talk the talk. Intellectual honesty as well as anarchy will be encouraged and pundits to this forum are encouraged to share not only their novelty but also their belief systems and why they believe what they do … thanks a trillion.


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29 Responses to “Religion”

  1. Angel Says:

    At first I was not sure whether declaring Zambia a ‘Christian’ nation meant anything, but after reading some postings on ZOL I became convinced that it has a lot of impact. Being too liberal, like South Africa has become (following the US model very closely),has more disadvantages than advantages. It encourages people corrupt and evil side to begin competing with that which is morally good. I mean, how in the world can you explain homosexuality, abortion-on-demand, stem cell harvesting from real live foetuses and all these other crazy things happening in the West? Me thinks God has abandoned these places and He is simply preparing them for destruction like Sodom and Gomorrha.

    Zambia should keep her status as a Christian nation even though we know that the West will try to attach their immorality to humanitarian aid. I would rather die of poverty than be turned into a condemned sinner ready to be burned in Hell fire!

    I know some of you might not agree with me, but this is my opinion.

  2. brainsplus Says:

    … every human spirit knows what is right and wrong, a rebellious heart acts in contrast to real morals while a righteous one seeks morality. A rebellious hearts seeks to carry with it others of like mind while a righteous one seeks to share purity. The more righteous a people, the lighter the burdens of life.

    Atheism is a religion. It is a religion – I came to find out when I once studied existentialism but they don’t call it that because they fear relativisms. It is the only religion where its followers worship SELF and the celebrations of the same. So in a nutshell we all have some one we worship.

    Every civilization rises and falls on religion; so if your religion is wrong and wacky your foundation is too. Zambia is blessed to have been declared a Christian Nation despite surrounding controversies and through who; Angel you are not alone in your perceptions … thanks a trillion.

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  4. Simon Mfula Says:

    For the declaration of Zambia as Christin nation was not a coincidence but a confession.

    A simple under standing of Daniel’s revealtion of Nebuchardinezars dream tells it all.

    Dan 2:44-45
    44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.

    The earth and the heavens are the Lord’s .Who else’s claim can any one belive?

    ooooo hhhh remain blessed youre oh God.
    No wonder they that saw you ride on a donkey said : Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

  5. brainsplus Says:

    … oh yes indeed. Blessed is a nation whose God is the Lord … thanks a trillion.

  6. Pimbilimano Says:

    I will borrow the words of Gandhi, “I like the man Jesus, but I don’t like Christians.”

    Now, before you hand me down a death penalty and slum your mallet on that mantle, let me tell you why the equation does not add up.

    I have yet to find a person in the whole republic wh would honestly says that he or she is a true Christian, with a straight face. Most of them that claim to be followiers of Christ do even pray before they steal from the government or worse still destroy other people’s lives.

    What is the purpose of the declaration if it only going to be on paper and not a part of our daily lives?

    Each time I think of how ridiculous it is for one to call oneself something while their actions contradict their words, it reminds of James Chamberlin’s reggae tune entitled “Hypocrites.” Yes, decaration of Zambia as a Christian nation has made no nation any better but put a seal of hypocricy on our countenance.

    Everytime law makers meet, their debates open with benediction, asking the creator to guide them on. As soon as they open their eyes, the request to be guided by the great spirit is forgotten about. What takes over are sinister intentions and alwys end them in positions opposite the law – they cheat, they lie, they steal!

    It does not end there. Men and women of the cloth have the same bad habbits.

    Instead of using Christian principles to complement our cultural values, we have traded them with the hypocricy that underlie the culture of those who brought the word to us. We now use the Christian banner as a coat which we wear on a chilly Sunday and take it off immediately our stomach registers empty.

    I am not claiming to be righteous myself and don’t give that whitewashed response that we are human and so…just honor up, be true to yourself and quitting deceiving people that we are who we are when we know it is just a facade.

    We are dying like flies, in and out of time, because we have thrown our culture to the curb and planted in its place everything the ten commandments say we MUST NOT DO in the name of modern evangelism.

    I think we piss off the creator more than we please him. Could it be the reason why we are experiencing high rates of unemployments, homelessness, disease, hunger, poverty, crime, unkind to each other and all other kinds of distasteful things?

    [I] I think we ought to rethink the declaration. As long as the systems are rotten, which really is the reflection of the output of our minds we are calling misfortunes upon ourselves.

  7. brainsplus Says:

    Ba Pimbi,
    … welcome aboard, the issues raised thus far are extremely important and I will find an opportune time to properly excogitate … thanks a trillion

  8. Anonymous Says:

    Good Afternoon fellow Zambians,
    I was reading a comment by ba Pimbi, I do not blame ba Pimbi with his feelings. It is natural to feel that way. We all feel that way, but at the same time we need to look deep into the problem and find solutions.
    Generally I can say, it comes down to the point of Christianity and politics do not work together.
    When politics are combined with Christianity, there is always a conflict at some point.
    The best advice is stay close to your God as an individual, because it’s not a country, a church or a government that will make you inherit a kingdom of God.
    In every country there is good and bad. It depends what path you choose. And the truth will set you free. The bible says in Mathews 24:14. You will tell the end of the world, when you see everything you are witnessing now. As a Christian, I do not even worst time thinking about why things are the way they are now. It is all written in the bible.
    I did not understand everything about religion, until I took world religions, as a course.
    If you go deep in it, you find that all what you hear and see is politics.
    Each religious group mentions God in their own way. That tells us that God exist, except people worship him in so many different ways. What you do not want to do as a Christian is to be judgmental. Give way to God to judge us.
    I can understand, ba Pimbi’s disappointment, sometimes as a Christian we all feel that way. But when you look at the big picture, of how politics works, you can separate fiction to facts. As a Christian, believe what you believe in, God will reward you one day. There is more wickedness in the western world than in our countries, the question is why are they blessed and do not die like us. It is not something you see on the streets every day.
    Why are we dying in Zambia? Don’t you think our life style is killing us? Let us educate ourselves. Let us find one common solution. Why so much poverty, diseases, and what ever we can think of. This is because of our life style in Zambia. We do not talk openly about certain things. We have created so many taboos, in our culture. Our kids are not free to talk openly about obvious things in life.
    Contrary, the western life style is so different. There is so much openness on everything. I think once we break some of our individual cover-ups, we will begin to solve certain issues. We have done that to ourselves.
    If you want Zambia, to survive as a Christian nation, lets us not be angry at each other, let us go to the real root of a problem then we can rescue our nation. Yes politics can be annoying sometimes, few of us who have opportunity to the open world, we have learnt, a lot that we just want to puke.
    It is high time we bring back our education, and start educating our fellow Zambians about the reality of the world. We have limited education in Zambia. All we know is we are a Christian nation, and when we read the bible, that is all we need to save our country. There is more than just reading a bible. Stand up as a Zambian citizen to make a change in the society.
    As for Zambia, to declare itself as a Christian nation, I can say on the political point of view, it works well for Zambia. As for morals, forget it. I have seen certain websites that has exposed our Zambian youth that I think as a Christian nation should interven.Sadly it is burning like fire that can not be stopped in Zambia. That is why parents should take interest in educating themselves with technology and to what extent should we expose our kids to media. We tend to be so closed minded sometimes, that by the time we realize we are sinking, with deseases, is when we have all have buried our lovely ones. This is not the time to be pointing figures as who he doing what. This is a fight for all us, us Christians, Zambian, citizens, to combat what has devasted our good country Zambia.
    If you are a Christian, do not stop praying, because of politics. Continue praying for our nation, and stand up to make a change. Do not just sit at home and complain. Do something. Think until we find a solution. Zambia is a democratic country. But you have to understand that we are on the receiving hand.
    Yes we have very cheap pattern of politics, it is same people that keep recycling. The same people who were in Kaunda error, are still leading the nation, the same people in MMD, are just going in circles. Sadly it looks like there will be no future presidents, due to AIDS.

    You know what, I do not blame the government, because they are elected by the people of Zambia and they are the only courageous people in the country that stand up to lead their country. Only they all get caught up in corruption.
    Most of us just complain and do nothing about it. You may complain about those policies. But if you do not stand up to make a change, Zambia will go on and on, the same route it is going.

    Westerns are developed because when it comes to protecting their own land and making change, they all contribute to change. Christians and none Christians come together, to find a common ground.

    I just stopped one predator from writing to my daughter who innocently put her profile on face book and myspace, one of the world internet service used by school kids, to interact with the world. As a parent, though residing in USA, I have opened my eyes to see what message my kids are getting from the world. I monitor every website they go to. Sadly, a lot of bad websites have already invaded Zambia.
    If you want to save Zambia as a nation, we all need to work together, to educate our youth, about reality of the world.

    Zambia has no capacity to monitor the kind of websites that introduces things that conflict with the belief of our nation as a Christian nation. My fellow Zambians, do you expect the president to go door to door to see who is doing what. If you were made president today, would you do that?
    In all fairness it comes down to every Zambian citizen, to bring the Christian morality in your country. Do not expect that the minister or the president will do all this. It is a responsibility of every Zambian to keep Zambian name as a Christian nation, through our deeds as Zambian citizens.
    Most Zambians parents are not computer literates, nor do they have access to computers in their homes to monitor such activities. Media has invaded Zambia, and sadly Zambia is taking more of the bad stuff, hence our youth have gone their way, with no guidance. Hence homosexuality invading a Christian nation likes Zambia. The truth is understood politics, and history of Zambia then you will know why Zambia has been declared a Christian nation.

    The poor has no eyes of what is hidden on their plate.
    Every country has its own culture and values. America has every religion you can think of on this earth, it is a melting pot. Zambia is a small melting pot of African countries. Most Zambians are immigrants from all parts of Africa, and that is why it is hard to keep our values, because it is a country of immigrants on a small scale. Unlike America, which is a country of immigrants from the entire world? The fact is you find a lot of craziness in a country that has unnumbered type of different cultures. People migrated with their own religions, name it, all is found in America. How about rate of AIDS compared to Zambia, very minimal. You know why? Education. People do not take life for granted. Use of condoms, and all prevention measures they can think of. Zambians, no matter how doctors preach about use of condoms, the answer is I would rather have no sex than wear a condom. Some answers are it is like watching the movie. 2. You have allowed hidden polygamy. West Africans marry four women in the open. They do not hide. Zambians, 1 wife and five girl friends, with no unprotected sex. That is why AIDS Has invaded us. Well now with the media exposure; check the websites that are flashing Zambia. Do you blame the government? No blame ourselves. We are doing this to ourselves.
    It depends on an individual person, to choose right and wrong. The sad thing is poverty makes us to pick anything that is presented to us.

    In America, there is bad and good. There are Christians that do not support certain things, and there are groups that support it. So it just depends how you view politics and your stand with God. The only difference with America is there is so much diversity as compared to Zambia. Zambia’s most settlers are from Africa.Surfice to say, America is made up of the world. It is a melting pot. And that is where the all craziness begins.

    I think for now, let’s find a way to combat AIDS in our so called Christian nation.
    You should be proud that we are known as Christian nation in the world. Count how many refugee camps are in Zambia. Zambia is used as a base, because it is peaceful, It Has become a diseased country, due to Zambians, open hearts to the world as a Christian nation. So cry for help to combat AIDS that originated from the outside world. Present yourselves in positive way as a Christian nation that has opened doors to every one, and now are paying a price, because of lack of education.

    Let’s remain Christians, do not stumble. It is a good thing, trust me.

  9. brainsplus Says:

    … impressive, thanks a trillion

    Ba Pimbi,
    … you know I have not forgotten about you, you and I go ways back I have just been very tied up and I think Anonymous did a lot of justice to your concerns with a level-headed approach … thanks a trillion

  10. Visionary Says:

    Greetings! Hust had a quick look at your blog. We live in a small global vision and I was able to read my dear brother Pimbilimano’s comment and I have told him that I am a true Christian. Him and I do agree on a lot of issues like development or wealth creation and I have great respect of him.

    Keep the Faith and never compromise your stand for the Lord or for the Bible (1 Timothy 4:1ff; 2 Timothy 3:16-17).

    I will visit again whever am able to do so. Blessings.

  11. Visionary Says:

    Sorry, I wanted to say, ‘We live in a small global village’ and not global vision.

  12. brainsplus Says:

    Ba Visionary,
    … we too respect Ba Pimbi a lot here, but we have theological differences when it comes to agnostics and apologetics.

    You’re welcome any time and thanks a trillion for visiting.

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  14. brainsplus Says:

    … you are wonderful, we are grateful for letting us know … thanks a trillion

  15. mwinamaila1 Says:

    Zambia should not call it self “a christian nation”.it should be known as a religious state that gives freedom of worship to any religion and gives protection to the followers.
    Let’s think about this issue clearly and wisely,do we practice what we preach?or is for convininience?.
    Poverty in our country has caused many social problems hence the break down of families,once poverty is alleviated all problems will be inview and solvable.talk all we want about economic plans is hot air,the mother in Nabwalya sees hunger as her reality not christianity,we need to wake up and pull ourselves out of sleep,the west have their self interests not yours or mine.Why is Africa the wealthiest on earth but has the highest number of poor nations?wars,famine,disease,corruption.50% of world gold production came from RSA,Nigeria is Africa’s largest oil producer,Uranium used in Ngasaki and Hiroshima A-bombs came from Zaire,Coltan used in cell phones and laptops comes from Zaire.Let’s first feed our people then give thanks for the bounty and not thanks before the bounty.peace out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. Bilia Says:

    Mr Brains,
    You got me confused.The pastor in this video, Are you brothers? I think you look alike.

  17. Bilia Says:

    And Dr Ramson Mumba, should be your dad. Right?

  18. brainsplus Says:

    … yes, he is my little brother (Dr. Ramson Mumba – Doctor of Divinity) and Pastor Ramson Mumba, Sr. is my dad; he (dad) is the one who starts immediately the video begins … thanks a trillion

  19. Solutions Says:

    Now I understand those brains of yours very well. Anyone coming from this back ground comes out to be great pundits.

    No one wonder you can make a great politician. Look at Obama’s back ground. When you are christian, you look at things differently, it is like the world becomes very transparent, and your reasoning as a christian is very different.
    Thanks a trillion


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  21. Umu-Lamba Says:

    People there is a quote by Bishop Desmond Tutu i quote” Missionaries came to Africa with a bible,we welcomed them,they said let’s close our eyes and pray,when we opened our eyes,we had the bible,they had the land”
    This is why we should take a pinch of salt when people come to us bearing sweet talk,have any of us asked them about the injustices commited to our brothers in the lands they come from?oh no i want that music box so ican dance,i want the shiny colorful clothes so i can look like you.
    I have forned my own opinions on religion and i know people will say what they want,but i live this life and see it according to my eyes and i am willing to talk about itPEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. Ben-Isreal Says:

    Shalom my brothers and sisters,
    l was gracefuly browsing through the net until l came across this paticular site, l was overwehlmed with joy to find that its a zambian site.

    l myself am a zambian (born n bred)currently am in south africa studing.Anyway my paticular interest is that of Zambia being declared a chrstian nation, l read most of the blogs on this issue and l felt moved to share my incite.

    first and foremost we must ask ourselves what is christianity? where did it begin and what does it entitle us to do. now alot will say it is a religion started by Jesus Christ the son of the most high-God the creator and christians are people who follow christian doctrine.

    Okay now l would like to ask all the readers of this blog not to get emotional but rather l want you to be objective and open minded, in short leave your emotions out this

    the definition l gave of christianity is wrong/fasle,there is nowhere in the bible both OT/NT where it says such a thing, most of you who have done extensive reading on the histroy of christianity or the gospels will agree that jesus is not the founder of this religion nor was he a christian. In 70 AD the ROMAN empire was in confusion and its people were divided on which gods to worship this was because a lot of religions had sprung up and among them were a group of people who were following the teachings of a hebrew who had defied the roman authority(jesus).

    So the roman Emperor called Constantine had a dream/vision and in this vision he saw a cross and with this cross there came a message saying ‘divide and concquor’.At this constantine came up with an idea that change history for ever, he decided to gather all the religions of rome and make them into one-Christianity,so now he gathered the scribes(writers)and gathered all the gospels that were in circulation they begun to select which ones could be apllied and which could be left out until finaly we have what we call the NEW TESTAMENT.(do your research and you will find that am not making this up)During the time of constantine there were more than 30 different gospel writen about the hebrew messiah and only 4 were chosen (for rome’s own political reasons).

    After Rome, came the greeks and thanks to their theology chritianity became polluted with mythisims of roman-greeko gods.

    My dear brothers haven’t you ever wondered why you celebrate christmas on the 25th of december? simple because the romans belived that their pagan god was born on the 25th of december and so it was their custom to celebrate, when rome made christianity its religion it inco-operated all of its pagan gods and festivals into christian whorship, the greeks are equally guilty when it comes to sunday worship.

    when you go to church on sunday you are actually following the concepts of the greeks because they worship their SUN-god on the first day of the week hence they called the day SUNDAY-(SUN-DAY). the truth is rectifialbe, so please start searching for the truth.

    Just because these(euro-gentiles)brougth you a religion don’t accept it with open arms,Remember that the missionaries came with a bible in left hand and a gun in the right, this should tell you that someting is not right, 3/4 of the worlds contemporary leaders are pastors/priets,evangelists etc but the world has never been further away from God than it is now…why because there is something wrong entirely.

    I know some of you are already thinking-this guy is going to burn in hell, but have ever thought that we probably are burning in hell right now(AIDS,crime,homosexuality,rape,pornography,drugs,cancers,abortion,sex change,deseases,wars,famine,corruption,terrorism)death is all around us, when you step out of your car,when you on your way to school/work, when you are eating,when u are sleeping.

    I am not trying to scare you am merely stating the facts,remember in the book of revelations it states-the devil who decieveth the entire world. do not underestimate the father of all lies. before you call yourself a christian findout exactly who you are worshiping- just because the religion has 2 billion members doesn’t make it righteous.

    I myself belive in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob- l do belive in the messiah and l do belive in following commandements and statuets of the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL. l don’t subscribe to any religion(christianity,Islam,Hindu,judaism etc)l am hebrew and hebrew isn’t a religion but culture(a way of life)am not jewish because there is a difference,you the black man are the decendents of the adamic civilisations, yes thats right you are not as a result of a curse but we have been cursed by the almighty because we have forgotten who we are in turn have forgotten GOD!

    this is probaly difficult for most to comprehend but search the scriptures you will know the truth and truth shall set ye free. You are my people and l love u we decended from Adam but the adversary(satan) has blinded us from the truth so as to make us weak, yes the israelites were a black skinned race (abraham,moses,david,jeremiah,jesus) these people were as black as you and me, its in the scriptures. don’t be frightened but rather be curious to find out what am talking about-Hollywood has decieved us to beliving we have no place in the bible, yet the bible its self is our own history book- who among us can trace their roots before slavery? most of us can’t even trace our roots before 1970.

    our slave masters gave us our histroy-keep in mind that ‘history is written by the concquers’a master will not give his slave information about his former glory lest the slave will rise up above his master-A thriving Africa is not in the best interest of Europe,you would be naive to think they are. find out your true identity,you are not just a black zambian/african no thats what the evil one wants us to belive- you come from a rich lineage of great men of the bible but because our forfathers forgot God, he also turned his back on us temporarily.

    you want to know why Africa is still the poorest continent? (read the books of Leviticus and dueteronomy under curses for disobedience) then you will have an idea.

    May his love and mercy shine up thee my people. HALLELUYAH HALLELUYAH.


  23. Ben-Israel Says:

    Shalom brothers and sisters,
    it’s me again just making a follow-up on my last blog.
    My last blog was quite provoking to most pro-christians but I do not apologise to what was said becuase I am speaking truth.

    Now again I would like to ask all the readers not to judge what is being said on basis of their emotions but rather be objective critical and realistic..

    In my last blog I mentioned a few things that the average black christian is unaware of i.e (how christianity came about, roots of christmas festivals and the truth about sunday whorship). I won’t go through them again for time’s sake but you can find this information on blog number 22.
    I would like to continue from the part I said the acient hebrew israelites were a black skinned race.

    For as long as we can remember we have been taught in churches, sunday school,educational intitutions,movies and television shows (TBN,Godtv etc)and pictures/Art that the people of the bible were “white”. Infact we even have a group of people calling themselves the decendants of Israel(Jacob) these are who we know today as “Jews”. Now if we search the scriptures we shall find that it tells a different story about the decendants of Israel.Lets go back in time and see for ourselves in the book of the begining(Genesis).

    The scriptures which will be used as our main source, supported by history and archaeology proves that these Jews are not the physical descendants of the ancient Hebrew Israelite nation. In addition it reveals who the true descendants are. The answer may leave you in shock.

    One of the facts scripture gives us about isreal in regard to their physical appearance is that the are described physically looking like the sons of HAM in appearance. Ham was one of the three sons of Noah, Shem and Japheth were the other two. Noah’s decendants repopulated the earth after the great flood. Ham’s decendants are traced to the Families of Africa. Ham in hebrew means Black,Hot and Burnt.(for those that don’t know Hebrew is the original language the bible was written in by Moses). Ham had four sons,

    1. CUSH (Ethiopians / Cushites & Nubians),
    2. MIZRAIM (Egyptians / Khemet),
    3. PHUT (Ancient Somalia),
    4. CANAAN (Canaanite, the original inhabitants of the land of Israel) genesis 10:6-19.

    All four of Ham’s sons and their decendants settled in and around the continent of africa and later formed their own kingdoms and empires ie egypt, ethiopia, somalia and canaanites etc.
    The Israelites are descendants of Noah’s son SHEM, through Abraham, he is the father of the Hebrew Israelite Nation. Abraham is the father of Isaac, Isaac is the father of Jacob, Jacob had twelve sons and these sons are the progenitors of the Israelite nation. (to be continued in next blog)

  24. Ben-Israel Says:

    (continuation)(resourced from hebrewisraelite.com)


    the names above are the 12 son’s of Isreal(jacob)of whom out of them came the 12 nations of Israel. Jacobs name was change to Israel by God (Gen32:28).

    Now lets begin with the story of Joseph,he was second last born in the family and Isreal’s most favourite son. This made his brothers envy him, this envy turned to hate. This then led then to selling Joseph to some Ishmaelites as a slave to Egyptians.
    Over the course of time Joseph became governor of Egypt and was second in command. There was a severe famine that came during that time and so Joseph’s brothers went down to egypt to get some grain becuase egypt was well prepared for it(famine)thanks to Joseph. Now when his brothers entered egypt they were brought before Joseph,HE RECOGNIZED THEM BUT THEY DIDN’T RECOGNIZE HIM (Gen 42:1-8). Okay so now let us take a look at the egyptians physical appearance archeologicaly and historical;

    Gerald Massey, English writer and author of the book, Egypt the Light of the World, wrote, “The dignity is so ancient that the insignia of the Pharaoh evidently belonged to the time when Egyptians wore nothing but the girdle of the Negro.” (p 251)
    Sir Richard Francis Burton, a 19th century English explorer, writer and linguist in 1883 wrote to Gerald Massey, “You are quite right about the “AFRICAN” origin of the Egyptians. I have 100 human skulls to prove it.”
    Scientist, R. T. Prittchett, states in his book The Natural History of Man, “In their complex and many of the complexions and in physical peculiarities the Egyptians were an “AFRICAN” race (p 124-125).
    The Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who visited Egypt in the 5th century B.C.E., saw the Egyptians face to face and described them as black-skinned with woolly hair.
    Anthropologist, Count Constatin de Volney (1727-1820),spoke about the race of the Egyptians that produced the Pharaohs. He later paid tribute to Herodotus’ discovery when he said:

    “The ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood mixed for several centuries with that of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the intensity of it’s original color, while retaining none the less the imprint of it’s original mold.”

    The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skin prompted Volney to make the following statement:
    “What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech.”
    The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skin prompted Volney to make the following statement:
    “What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech.”
    The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black-skin prompted Volney to make the following statement:
    “What a subject for meditation, just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech.”

    Now since we know that the Egyptians were black skinned lets go back to the story of joseph,his own bothers didn’t recognize him amongst the black egyptians, If he was white they could have noticed him right away but they didn’t-in fact had he not made himself known to them, they would have left egypt without noticing him. Do you see the deception these false prophets have made us to believe on their fake potrail of joseph in their films? He that has ears let him hear. We have heard the testimonies of the acients, the scriptures & many Egyptologists along with archaeology that the Egyptians during acient times were “BLACK” PEOPLE.(CONTINUED IN NEXT BLOG)

  25. Ben-Israel Says:


    Next, in Genesis chapter 50 verses 7-11, scripture will describes ALL the Hebrews as looking like the ancient Egyptians.
    After Jacob died in the land of Egypt, all the Hebrews and Egyptians went down to the land of Canaan to bury him (He asked his son to bury him in the land of Canaan with his forefathers Genesis 49:29-30).
    • Verses 7-8, states that all the elders of Pharaoh’s house and all the elders of the land of Egypt along with all the Hebrews (except for their small children) went down.
    • VERSE 9 says, “It was a very great company.”
    • VERSE 11 says, that the Canaanites saw the funeral procession and said “THIS IS A GRIEVOUS MOURNING TO THE EGYPTIANS”.
    But, remember this was a mixed multitude of Hebrews and Egyptians going to bury a HEBREW, and the Canaanites identified them both as Egyptians. WHY? Because, the Canaanites saw a great company of black-skinned people who all look like native (black) Egyptians. It’s only logic that the Hebrews were mourning the hardest in the “funeral” procession for our father Jacob, and this is who the Canaanites saw. When they describe this great mourning for Jacob the Hebrew, they saw Israelites mourning the greatest, and they thought these Hebrews were Egyptians.

    Okay now we fast forward into the time of moses, Moses was born a Hebrew-israelite from the tribe of Levi(exodus 2:1-3). he lived 40 years in pharaoh’s house (Acts 7:23)and was raised as pharaoh’s grandson.
    Exodus 2: 10 And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh’s daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.

    Many schoars say the pharaoh who was on the throne of egypt at the time of moses’ birth, was pharaoh Seti I. He was the father of
    Ramses II. George Rawlinson, an English author wrote a book entitled History of Egypt. On page 252, he gives a description of Seti I. He states: “SETI’S FACE WAS THOROUGHLY AFRICAN. HE HAD A STORMY FACE WITH A DEPRESSED FLAT NOSE, THICK LIPS AND HEAVY CHIN.”

    Moses must have looked the same because he was rased inside pharaoh’s house and if the hebrews were white, pharaoh would have noticed a white baby runing around in the palace and he would have killed the child-because how can he tell the rest of egypt to slaughter all male hebrew babies and yet there was one in his own palace having the treatment fit for a prince?
    Think about it,this is very deep, pharaoh saw moses from child hood and thought it was his grandson, moses grew from a baby to a teenager to a young adult to a grown man of 40 and still pharaoh looked in his eyes and saw him as his own flesh and blood.

    I pray that by now your eyes are begining to open and you are drawing away from the darkness(lies), are you seeing how scriputres are unlocking the truth to us?
    Moses fled to the land of Midian (located in Saudi Arabia) where he helped seven daughters of the priest of Midian water their flock, after chasing away some bully shepherds. The girls went home to their father, Reuel and told him what happened.Exodus 2:16-19

    16 Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father’s flock.

    17 And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock.

    18 And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day?

    19 And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.
    (Notice that they didn’t say a hebrew/israelite saved us rather they mentioned an Egyptian)

  26. Ben-Israel Says:

    Further proof that Moses was “black” can be found in Exodus 4:6-7, In this passage, Yah / YHWH, (The Creator’s name in Hebrew) is showing Moses miracles so that he can prove to the children of Israel who sent him. YAH tells Moses to put his hand into his bosom, which he does. When he takes his hand out, it is LEPROUS (White) as snow.

    If Moses was already white skinned what would have been the miracle of turning the skin of his hand white? but since Moses and the rest of the hebrews were black, it would have been a great miracle/sign for the unbeliving israelites that Yah(God)had truly sent moses to save them.

    Now let us look at the LIE, most of us infact all of us who have wacthed the Hollywood and TBN movies about the commandments and moses, you will have noticed that not even one single black man or woman plays the lead role in them,(not because they don’t know the truth but because the choose not to tell the truth).

    Anyone who has been phisically cursed in the bible has been cursed white;mirriam(Num 12:9-12), Gehazier was cursed by Elisha after he tricked Namaan in giving him some goods in opposition to what Elisha had commanded.”may Namaan’s leprosy cling to you and to thy seed(decendants)for ever, and Gehazier’s skin become leprous as “white” as snow.(the book of kings, “Namaan’s leprosy”).

    In the book of Hosea God speaks to the prophet Hosea saying “My people perish due to lack of Knowledge” he also gives us the reason why we fail to acquire that knowledge-it is because we have forgotten him the holy one of israel, that is why what you have read sounds very strange you can’t even relate, the devil has deceived us into whorshiping him while we think we whorship the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL-YAH.1 corithians 10:20,paul tells the israelites that they must not make worship the way the gentiles worship because the gentiles whorship devils-you my brothers think you whorship God the creator but if you really look deeper into the foundations and philosophies of your religion,you’ll find that you whorship the unholy one (satan)because you have been misled.

    MOST of you don’t even know God’s real name and yet you say to others DON’T TAKE THE LORDS NAME IN VAIN, His name is YAH it’s what the acient prophets called him it means, the EXALTED ONE, THE SELF EXISTING ONE. when say HALLELUYAH,you are actually saying HALLE-LU-YAH (praise you YAH).God is not his name its his title.
    But your false teachers won’t teach you this because there is no light(truth) in them, they pretend to be sheep but are ravenous wolves devouring you. No one can oppose the truth because it is eternal, who said the old testament is fulfiled,who told you that God doesn’t want you to keep the laws given to moses because jesus died for your sins? all these are lies- in Malachi the God tells us “I am the Lord, I change not”, in the book of Matt Jesus tells us “think not that I come to change the Law but to fulfil it”. Do not be deceived my people,it is time for you to rise and return to your maker-Yah.


  27. Ben-Israel Says:

    The physical apearance of the hebrews is not just reserved to the Old Testament, The New Testament equally gives us some ‘food for thought’.

    Acts 21:37-38, states that Paul, (Shaul in Hebrew) the apostle, was being led into a castle by a chief captain. Paul spoke to the chief in Greek, asking permission to speak with him. The chief captain was surprised that Paul could speak Greek and in verse 38, asks Paul, “Are not you that EGYPTIAN?” Paul responded, (Verse 39) “I am a man of Israel (Hebrew).”

    In order for this chief captain to mistake Paul (the Hebrew) for a black-skinned Egyptian, Paul had to look like an Egyptian, as scripture tells us the whole nation of Israel did. Paul had to tell the chief captain he was an Israelite. Once again we see from scripture that it is hard to physically identify a Hebrew from an Egyptian.

    In the book of Matthew 2:13, the angel of Yah told Joseph to arise and take the young child Yahshuah, (The Messiah’s true Hebrew name is Yahshuah) and his mother Mary and FLEE INTO EGYPT. He was told to stay there until he received further instructions, because Herod would seek the young child to destroy him.verse 14 continues to say”when he arose,he took the young child and his mother by night,and fled into Egypt.”

    Joseph, Mary and Yahshuah were told to flee into Egypt, not for military protection, because during this time, Egypt was a Roman province under Roman control. They fled into Egypt because Egypt was still a “black” country, populated by a majority of black-skinned people (Egyptians). Joseph, Mary and Yahshuah would have been just another black-skinned family among many. Remember, they fled into Egypt to HIDE from Herod who was seeking to kill Yahshuah.

    Herod was put on the throne of Israel by the Romans. Egypt was under Roman dominion. All Herod had to do was check with the Roman officials in Egypt to find out if there were any Hebrews with baby boys around. But, since the Hebrews and the Egyptians looked the same physically, it would have been hard to single out a Hebrew family among the native “black” ancient Egyptians

    NOTE: the above fact about Yahshuah hiding in Egypt was attested to by a biblical scholar (DR. MARK GOODACRE) on a BBC produced program in 2001.

    The Program was called ‘THE COMPLETE JESUS’. Dr. Mark Goodacre stated, it would have been hard for Yahshuah to hide among the Egyptians, if he didn’t look like the Egyptians. He was making the point that Yahshuah could not have been a man of white hue(complextion). He admitted in the program that Yahshuah was a dark /black skinned man.

    “Now it’s very unlikely that Jesus would have been able to be HIDDEN in Egypt, if he had a very different color of SKIN from the people in Egypt.”

    He also made mention that the Israelites of the first to third centuries wore their hair in Afro’s, and wore short crop black beards. This is only the tip of the iceberg, you can’t hold down the truth.

    So now you see for yourselves what scriptures tell us and for some of you it will be as though you are reading the bible for the first time. The so-called Negroes,Africans,Blacks etc are the original decendants of biblical figures, why do you think we are naturally more spiritual than the west,put aside religions our so called African traditions configure it some biblical practices of the acient people.In Zambia’s western province for instance, the tribes men there practice circumsision,something not too many white people practice-Spirituality is in our DNA, we had it even before we were introduced to Christianity.(CONTINUED IN NEXT BLOG)

    1. jerri sow Says:

      Wow if we could just talk on the phone. Faith.

  28. Wawa Says:

    I don’t know where what I am about to say fits into the whole equation, but I will just go a head and say it.

    Religion has been a heated argument for years and in many cases, even when we all can define it in ways that are both different yet identical, to find a balance, a point of agreement, where being this or that matters not, has been the most difficult thing to achieve by those that have tried.

    I believe that beyond ‘being christian’, ‘moslem’, or ‘hindi’, there is a greater purpose to our religious identities, and if just for a moment we could seat down and honestly ask ourselves if really our current religious scenarios are the will of God or the products of our ‘abuse of the freedom of choice’ only we have been blessed with. I would want to believe that even when the scriptures speaks of times of like these, in a way I feel our failures are hid in our beliefs that ‘this is destiny’ and/or that ‘this is prophecy in the making’.

    “Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven’. Now, I am not a theologian, nor am I looking for a point of intellectual discussion, I just believe that this world, this little place we call home [for now] really is our earthly paradise. And yes, it is probably the most messed up place we could ever imagine, but it is our home, and it is messed up, not by the will of God, but by our very own negligence, pride and belief that we are ‘simply passing through’. In my opinion, a man that builds a home next to the intercity bus terminus and hopes that by cleaning ‘only’ his surroundings, he could live a long, quite, peaceful and clean life should realize that every day of the ‘rest of his life’ will be wasted away ‘trying’ to keep this small patch of ‘home’ clean, impressive and attractive, a choice though sincere, stands wrong in certain respects.

    Likewise, religion today is all about ‘me’, ‘my congregation’, ‘my people’ and nothing else but ‘me’. We have made it so much a personal thing, that we spend our days ‘comparing’ ourselves to other and wondering how good we look ‘in the eyes of God’. We forget that people around, regardless of their distinguished positions in our lives are the reflections of very fabric we call ourselves. When we believe in love, in justice, in unity or any of those beautiful virtues littered all over the place, our abilities to fully define these qualities aren’t complete until we reach, act them out and ‘pray’ that the lessons we have learned may be manifested in the thousands of lives that roam all around us. To me, this paragraph is a summary of the implications of the except from the Lord’s Prayer.

    We may be wayward, we way seem lost, and we may seem different outwardly, but the real us really is the soul. And if Zambia is a Christian nation, it is not for the Christian majority to make that a point to prove, no, it for us to realize that we have a voice, that if used to voice our praise, rather than deliver sermons of the intensity of the nethermost fire, of the devil [his pitch fork and spike tail] or of how how exceptionally ‘blessed’ we are, we will realize that the world, has the capacity to listen and that the only thing that holds it back is how we tend to want to sideline the very existence of anything else other than what we already know and hold true. The world is full of beliefs, wisdoms and countless valuable realities, and if our our first contact will be to try and destroy these pillars, we will be fighting to keep we has always been our.

    “Be distinguished by your deeds, for words are the property of all alike”

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